PEUGEOT 205 RALLYE (I) 9. In the middle you’ll also find a turbo boost gauge next to the tach that indicates a 7500 rpm redline. MG's Unconventional Entry to Group B Rally, Shark Bite: Back in 1997, Hyundai Was Into Rally, Taking on the World Rally Championship With an E30, From the Bottom Up: A Mitsubishi Galant Story, Inside the Garages at the HSR Classic 24 Hour & Daytona Historics. | He bought his car from Gilbert Casanova's dealership in Ajaccio and had him prepare it. Renault may have stunned the competition by turning their modest 5 into a mean street fighter, but Audi was quick to point out that the French forgot one important innovation: four-wheel drive. Don’t be fooled by the Martini livery: This is still the street version. This comparison has been viewed 2.6k times. These are some of the wildest road cars ever produced. I love your 205 T16 and your R5 Turbo, really ! For one, the Sport quattro beats the Renault for the award for best soundtrack. “Not because of the extra power, but the balance made it unpredictable.”. Dream or not, we are definitely taking a trip through time with four of the most mythical cars of the ’80s: the street-legal homologation versions of four Group B rally giants. 205 T16 technical view The engineers chose to build the motor around Peugeot’s new “XU” line of stout diesel engines but with a much modified DOHC 16 valve head to run gasoline. They idle impatiently, desperate to rip the road to pieces. PEUGEOT 205 GTI 1.9 : 7. All ... a renault 5 turbo 2 (from forza, a different from the one i released from dirt), a belverdere and some others. Some of the 205 Turbo 16’s interior bits seem familiar, like the steering wheel that Peugeot nicked from the 205 GTi hot hatch. While the Lancia was the last and biggest hurrah of the class. This particular 1985 Sport quattro looks and feels brand new. This meant that, by the ’84 season, the T16 was competing, Ari Vatanen winning with it on three occasions. They ruin ... "GTR no longer has any fanboys left." Renault took the 1.4-liter engine that existed in the Renault 5 Alpine and turbocharged it. One of ... Why are ferrari fans talking shit, I dont even need to speak porsche vs ... As much as i know 5% is in the toleranz. It is the 12th car in the series, making it one of the first for which the structure The last thing we would want to do is lower the number of existing Sport quattros by another digit. By Staff Writer That's around 4-5% more than claimed. Poster le commentaire Annuler la réponse. Un Peugeot 205 T16 neuve en 2017, ça existe. If a manufacturer wanted to compete in the top rung of the World Rally Championship between 1982 and 1986, then they had to follow the Group B regulations. For power, Peugeot took their 1.7-liter, four-cylinder engine and bolted on a big KKK turbo. It even has a back seat and a sizable trunk. | Posted in Tell us that this is only a dream: Our convoy consists not only of the Audi Sport quattro but a Renault 5 Turbo, a Peugeot 205 T16 and a Lancia Delta S4 Stradale as well. The 1.8L DOHC engine mounted in the 205 T16 with the 1.4 engine displacement multiplication factor back then would result in 2500 cc, and the minimum car weight set at 900kg. In this company, the Sport quattro certainly seems the most sedate. Mens rallybilerne triumferede i Gruppe B, snappede Peugeot 205 T16 og Renault 5 Turbo 2 de store sportsvogne til gaden i haserne. Group B rally fans have the chance to wrap driving gloves around a Peugeot 205 T16 now available for sale in the UK – after a small moment parting with £175,000 (AU $300K). This, however, is the easy part. Not only did the Delta S4 get a turbo but also a mechanical supercharger for low-end torque. Vi kører og fortæller historien om 80’ernes turbo-hatchbacks. It's great to see those stars cars on GTA V :) 17 de Fevereiro de 2018. m4ccy. ... la pose d'une mécanique de 405 T16 rentre à la place de celle de la GTI16S, tout comme le bx GTI16S rentre dans une 205 GTI sans difficultées(enfin presques) mais faisable. 324 of the 1678 examples built between 1980 and 1982. This particular engine was just rebuilt, as this car spent more than 10 years in hiding in a French barn. It even has power steering connected to a very standard-looking Audi steering wheel. Dire qu'une R5 turbo 1 est plus brutale c'est qu'ils n'ont jamais eu entre les mains une 205 T16. 205 T16 is the fastest by a small margin. Cue a lot of pendulum moves on gravel and left-foot braking to kill the understeer. Mi interesserebbe sapere piu che altro il confronto tra 205 1.9 gti e appunto renault r5 turbo, soprattutto a livello di guida e tenuta piu che di motore. According to the Group B regulations, these had to be based on a current production road car. Meet the Sport quattro. 1. Lancia employed four-wheel drive–the “normal” street Delta only received front- drive–but maintained very much a 70/30 rear-wheel drive bias. Never meet your heroes (though Peter Egan was a big exception to that :). Porsche living up to its reputation as the inventor of fake ... GTR no longer has any fanboys left. The Lancia turned out to be responsible for the undoing of Group B some 30 years ago. I don't see it on the Classic forum. And as you go looking for the 7500 rpm redline, it howls. Oublié le nom de 208 Type R5, Peugeot vient de l'officialiser, la version de rallye de la citadine au Lion s'appelle désormais 208 T16. 205 GTI vs R5 Turbo FaseI. Let’s get to the Renault 5 Turbo first. As you start it, it turns out a lot of mechanical noises. The 208 R5 was named the 'T16' in reference to the 205 T16 Group B rally car, as a sign of the marque's heritage. 15. juli 2020 af Søren Juul #klassiker #turbo. The engine layout quickly warms up the cabin. Peugeot’s marketing masterstroke in February 1983 was to launch the Gpb Turbo 16 rally car on the same day as its new 205 hatchback road car. Even though 200 horsepower was a respectable output in the early ’80s, a zero-to-100 kph time of 6.8 seconds is only a tenth quicker than the Renault. Payback was coming from France, and the seeds were planted in 1976 with a secret project given the number 822. All was changed: The engine was moved behind the driver, and power was sent to the rear wheels. Audi showed that their quattro technology held an advantage in Group B rally. Today, 205 T16 values usually start at around 200.000 Euros, going up to (asking) prices of 250.000, supercar territory. I do have an issue though, I have tried your forum guide regarding modkit numbers. In rally trim it easily pushed along 350 horsepower, but no such luck for the street version. It is also the easiest to drive. La preuve, la maison d'enchères Artcurial s'apprête à proposer à la vente ce superbe exemplaire de 1985, affichant seulement 248 km au compteur. En effet, la marque au lion disposait jusqu'alors de modèles plutôt classiques, qui attiraient une clientèle d'un certain âge. The interior feels roomy and well- finished. I need to hear them. Up until the Lancia Delta S4 appeared towards the end of 1985, Peugeot dominated the World Rally Championship. During the Group B era power climbed quickly, going from 300 horsepower to above 500-too much for the time. These four cars originated out of Group B homologation regulations. Kicking up gravel is in their DNA. Below 3000 rpm it is stubborn as a mule—and then the turbo kicks in. This is a brilliant car, thanks for making it ! They are now even more out of place, but they have lost none of their attraction–and probably never will. Déjà commercialisée, la 104 connut un franc succès mais ne parvint pas à se faire une place de choix dans un segment où les Renaul… It requires a delicate touch, especially when you start thinking about the fact that of the 224 Sport quattros that Audi produced, only 164 were sold to customers. Réponse. It is also the only one here with a dogleg-type, five-speed gearbox. Avec sa version compétition, Peugeot remporte les titres mondiaux pilotes et constructeurs en championnat du monde des rallyes en 1985 et 1986, ainsi qu'en moins de trois saisons pleines au moins une fois toutes les épreuves proposées hormis les deux africaines et celle américaine (alors l'Olympus). It was the answer Lancia had been developing since 1983, with the rear-wheel drive Lancia 037 never being more than a stopgap– albeit a successful one during its 1982–’83 model run. Features That's weird. In its civilian form in the U.S. it was known as Le Car-a simple front-drive econobox. It hit 100 kph in 6 seconds flat and worked itself to a top speed of 225 kph. At the same time, its driver is looking at some very dated French plastics screaming in red and blue, the only available colors at the time. I would still love to import a Lancia Delta Integrale, just so I could sit behind the wheel and think of those heady gasoline fueled daze. Just as with the Renault 5 Turbo, it also surrenders the rear seats, with the engine positioned behind a fixed firewall. Like what you're reading? 205 Turbo 16 (T16) Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 road car version. And as luck would have it, we recently featured a Renault R5 Turbo II over on the Classic Motorsport forum. 17. To tie the race cars to the street versions, FISA ruled that at least 200 production examples had to be made. The 205 was a cheap economy model and didn’t look like it had the base on which a rally beast could be … To homologate the 205 T16 ("Turbo 16" in France) Group B rally car, Peugeot had to produce 200 road-going examples. blanc sur 12 septembre 2020 à 10 h 59 min tout canevaut pas unne lancia. It's really surprising to see that the R5 Turbo was roughly as fast as my modified Datsun 1200. It is unrestored and looks just stunning. As long as you take it easy, it feels every bit like a regular road car-that is, until you decide to push it further. On the GT Turbo, it’s emphasized even more by a chunky body kit and fake rear wheel cooling grilles. The more revs, the happier the Lancia becomes. But in the end, you can’t help feeling that the road version is not quite the same legend as the rally-Peugeot. Io fin'ora sono riuscito a provare solo il 205 1.6 gti. He was convinced that this car, once set up, would be much faster than the R5 Turbo Cévennes, which then dominated rallies on the island. With the Delta S4 Stradale, Lancia wanted to trump all the others and went completely bonkers in a skunk works setup inside the Abarth buildings in Turin. On the go, it puffs and hisses like no other. But today, the dinosaurs are coming out to get some air. Despite Audi’s intentions, handling wasn’t dramatically improved. No lifting of the gas in fast corners if you want to keep your pants dry. Send a link to the Duel : Peugeot 205 T16 vs Renault 5 Turbo to a friend To make a link to Duel : Peugeot 205 T16 vs Renault 5 Turbo in a forum, please use this code : As you shift from the gas pedal to the brakes, the Sport quattro starts moving around on its suspension a bit. baba0rum | Jack7793. Comparativo Peugeot 205 T16 - Renault 5 Turbo [2344] : Información sobre el prestaciones (velocidad, aceleración, recuperaciones) y característica de un coche y comparar con otros autos People have moved, and abandoned houses are waiting for the bulldozers to come. It kept things relatively sane at 246 horsepower for 1270 kilos of bodyweight. | Never miss an article, [Editor's Note: We originally ran this story in our August 2017 issue. :D ... 680? Le Championnat de France de rallycross est remporté à trois reprises consécutives également par une Evo 2, en 1988 avec Guy F… But come off the gas, and the Delta S4 darts left–or maybe to the right. The Sport quattro also used Kevlar panels for the fenders and roof. 10044di. Where is the video? R5 GT Turbo vs 205 GTi turbo! Serge57 Le 30/03/2006 à 12:37. Compare performance of Renault 5 Turbo Phase II and Peugeot 205 T16. Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evo 2. Yes, I'm fully aware that comparing a modified This to a stock That is meaningless, but I always had visions of the R5 as being breathtakingly faster. Updated November 2020. When it’s time to move, this one is very reluctant to get going. Last weekend´s Montée des Legendes in France was a Hillclimb Festival with some amazing guests, but what caught our attention was the possibility of watching back to back Two Peugeot Monsters: the 600+Hp/930Kg Group B 205 T16 Evo II and Loeb´s 875Hp/875Kg 208 T16 Pikes Peak. The Delta S4 Stradale actually has a beautifully finished interior with Alcantara seats. (If there’s any consolation, it didn’t quite meet estimate.). You are probably as old as the R35 GT-R itself (90+ years). More … It foregoes power steering so it is actually quite heavy in traffic. It was wicked, it was wild- and it definitively bested Audi. Renault 'who here also likes killer B's'.....was the other tag line and my bad it was started here not classic. Surprisingly it has a smooth gearbox, better than modern Renaults, even. PEUGEOT 205 RALLYE (II) Comentarios de los lectores: 4 . PEUGEOT 205 GTi vs RENAULT 5 COPA TURBO vs FORD FIESTA XR2 : 8. The chassis was a full-tube affair. People died, and in 1986 FISA called time on Group B. Pinch us. But find an open road, hit 4000 rpm, and the turbo sends you to the back of your seat. This is an old-school 4×4, so to get it off the line it needs plenty of gas. Peugeot simply raised the bar with the 1983 showing of their four-wheel-drive 205 Turbo 16. Citroen BX 4TC vs Peugeot 205 T16. In reality, it is not even in the same league as the rest. However, it’s the only one of the nearly 70 copies of the Delta S4 Stradale delivered in Monte Carlo rally trim–and as such it was displayed in an Austrian museum until it found a new home. | From the Aug. 2017 issue Renault 5 Turbo Phase II vs Peugeot 205 T16. Once the turbo is spinning, the Renault is actually huge fun. Fortunately it power slides nicely. PEUGEOT 205 GTI 1.6 : 6. Slightly updated. Dream or not, we are definitely taking a trip through time with four of the most mythical cars of the ’80s: the street-legal homologation versions of four Group B rally giants. © 2021 Motorsport Marketing. Surprised by the lack of Queen references, because these cars are dynamite with a laser beam. Allora vorrei sapere un attimo da chi magari è riuscito a provarle tutte e due, quali sono le differenze tra le due in termini di guida. Audi, “I actually preferred the longer wheelbase quattro,” 1984 world champion Stig Blomqvist once said. En septembre dernier nous avions pu découvrir sur le stand Sans aller chercher les grosses preparations, d'origine entre eux, il y a une 4 roues motrices avec un moteur Turbo et compresseur volumetrique puis une 2 roues motrices avec un moteur turbo compressé. Extra cooling demands led to wide rear-wheel arches. Some information may be different today. Peugeot, But in Europe, some engineers saw more. It does not do subtle. Practical it is not; it could only fit a baguette behind the engine cover. It has just 47,000 kilometers, and the current owner bought it five years ago from the first one. In fact, he only switched to the short-wheelbase Sport quattro after he was certain that he had the championship in the bag. This pocket rocket generously distributes confidence, as long as the driver respects the physics of a short-wheelbase, mid-engined supermini. McLaren 720S hase on ... Bruh, I hate the stupid kind of GT-R fans. “The quattro Sport was a handful on gravel,” he also said. In 1981 the creation was presented at the Brussels Motor Show, its 1.4-liter engine boosted to 160 horsepower in road-going trim. As it explores the rev range all the way to its 7200 rpm limit, it delivers a roar that would make any animal within earshot think a predator is on the prowl. Why is this here as well as the Classic motorsports forum? The inside echoes the outside; the steering wheel and gearknob are the most curvaceous items and the overhanging lip above the gauges gives the Renault cabin a very distinctive look.

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